The Next 10 – Sega Genesis | CGQ+

Almost exactly a year ago I made a video called “The Next 10 – TurboGrafx-16” in which I read off a crowd-sourced list of top 10 TurboGrafx-16 games, and then talked about what my “next 10” would be. That was a lot of fun to do, so now I’m back to do it again with the Sega Genesis. Obviously the Genesis has a much larger library than the Turbo, so instead of a top 10 list, we’re going to look at a top 25, and then I’ll go through my “next 10” again. This wasn’t easy to do, because while 10 games is about 10% of the TurboGrafx library, even 25 games is only a little over 3% of the Genesis library. So this means that there were a LOT of good games that didn’t make the top 25, but I wanted to make sure that I got to talk about my favorite games, and not just titles that I thought “deserved” to be on the list.

Last time I talked more about the Turbo and how I got into collecting it and whatnot, but I’ve talked about the Sega Genesis extensively on the show, and I knew that this was going to be a long episode no matter what so I just wanted to get right into it. Anyone who watches the show knows that the Genesis was the system that I had in the 16-bit days, and as you might expect some of my favorite games are the ones that I had back then.

I know I said it like twice in the video but seriously, HUGE THANKS to “Ian in the Sierras” for putting together the top 25 list for me.

Show notes:

– Hey, I think I managed to make one of these talking head videos without having autofocus problems!

– I had to export this video three times, and upload it twice. Partially because I was in a hurry to get it done and didn’t properly check everything, and partially because I think my editing software hates me.

– I don’t really trust PriceCharting.com because I think it over-values things based on the highest sales prices it finds, but at least according to that site, if you wanted to buy CIB copies of every game that I talk about in this video, it would cost you over $2,000. How times have changed!

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50 Comments

  1. Home Equity Loan on April 6, 2021 at 11:40 pm

    Great Easter basket of games, Chris! Especially considering I didn’t get one this year. Damn bunny. 🐰

  2. Ruudos on April 6, 2021 at 11:41 pm

    MUSHA wasn’t released in Europe.

  3. Rafael Zig on April 6, 2021 at 11:43 pm

    Great content as usual! This console has so many great titles it is often difficult to make these lists.

  4. Adam J K on April 6, 2021 at 11:45 pm

    Gotta increase your speed a little on MUSHa and you’ll be picking up the power up icons like nobody’s business. That really made the game so much easier for me.

  5. Riggel on April 6, 2021 at 11:45 pm

    My daughter is 5. She knows who Mickey is. We like to watch the new Mickey cartoons on Disney plus. I recommend them to adults. They are pretty wild and hilarious. Reminiscent of Ren and Stimpy but not as disgusting.

  6. Rose Ward on April 6, 2021 at 11:46 pm

    It took me years to realize Rutger Hauer wasn’t even IN the movie Rambo III! I think they swiped his visage from Blade Runner for that digitized picture in the prison level.

  7. Fed Smoker on April 6, 2021 at 11:48 pm

    electra keeps it high and tight

  8. TheUnlikelyToad on April 6, 2021 at 11:48 pm

    With regard to those that aren’t on the list ie. Sports and Fighting games… my educated guess is that people probably don’t think about them much because they weren’t exclusives and ported elsewhere. I know when I typically think of best Genesis games, the exclusives come to mind first.

  9. darthv72 on April 6, 2021 at 11:48 pm

    good stuff man. I shared this to Sega Collectors on FB.

  10. Zek B on April 6, 2021 at 11:49 pm

    I love SOR3 so underrated

  11. erebus015 on April 6, 2021 at 11:49 pm

    Aladdin on Genesis was huge for me and my friends. I can understand how it was the third best selling Genesis game. Great video from what I’ve watched so far… Genesis kid right here 😎

  12. TheEagleXIII on April 6, 2021 at 11:50 pm

    I feel the same about Ecco the Dolphin – I’m both surprised and not surprised when it does or doesn’t show up on best Genesis games lists. It definitely is a flagship Genesis game, and it deserves to be remembered as iconic to the system as Sonic, Shinobi and Street of Rage. It is a great game. It’s completely unique and well designed, and Ecco plays and feels how a dolphin should… but… it’s super difficult. Not to mention it feels incredibly bleak, and as great as the soundtrack is, it reflects this tone. Add to that maybe some kinda subconscious anxiety about constantly having to worry about drowning; Ecco’s screams when he takes damage; the themes of being lost and that feeling of loneliness. Then there’s the unexpected sci-fi plot. Objectively it should be a top 25 – easily top 50, at least. But, subjectively, I can see why it doesn’t end up in a lot of people’s favourite experiences.

  13. Björn H on April 6, 2021 at 11:51 pm

    Great work Ian with compiling the Genesis list! Sounds legit, as odd as some things are.

    I too was surprised by the complete omission of fighting games. Even if modern gamers may prefer Street Fighter II on other systems I thought for sure there was nostalgia for Mortal Kombat II.

    Nice list of next ten, Star Flight is one I’ve never played. Sounds really interesting, will keep my eye out. My own contribution for a next ten would be Wiz ‘n Liz. It’s kind of a platform game where there are no enemies or hazards on the levels, you just try collecting as much stuff as you can and avoid letting the clock run out. A frantic game that plays like nothing else I’ve experienced.

  14. Same Name, Different Game on April 6, 2021 at 11:52 pm

    Who are these absolute weirdos who think f’n Vectorman is better than Contra: Hard Corps AND Castlevania: Bloodlines?!

  15. SneakyturtleEgg on April 6, 2021 at 11:53 pm

    Twin Cobra is my favorite Toaplan shooter. I dumped so many quarters in it at my local Aladdin’s Castle back in the day. The Genesis port was really good. The difficulty ramps up pretty good during the later levels.

  16. Will Mistretta on April 6, 2021 at 11:55 pm

    Sports games are like flight simulators: Their focus on modeling a real world activity as accurately as possible means they get rendered obsolete all too easily by advancing technology. This is why the 8 and 16-bit sports games still worth playing and talking about today are the deliberately unrealistic ones. Mutant League, NBA Jam, Punch-Out!!, Tecmo Bowl, etc.

  17. Throwaway Shill on April 6, 2021 at 11:56 pm

    I appreciate the game footage included with every game discussed. Well done!

  18. Clayton Weaver on April 6, 2021 at 11:56 pm

    NHL 94′ is the only game you have that would make my ‘Next 10’ but I figure that is more due to the strength of the Genesis library.

    If the list was based on what I was playing at the time, it would also have NBA Jam: Tournament Edition and Street Fighter 2: CE but if I was to make a list today I don’t think I’d put either on the list.

  19. Broc Holmquest on April 6, 2021 at 11:58 pm

    I can see what you mean about Road Rash. I think it’s a combination of the visuals, the sound (which I assume was GEMS, or at least it sounds like it to me), and the ATTITUDE. Obviously there are games that do any of those three things better (or more memorably, at least), but Road Rash is a good example of all three qualities. Plus it just feels very representative of the "average" Genesis experience; the more iconic games like Sonic or SoR can sometimes feel like outliers just by virtue of being so much better than most of the other games on the system.

    It’s not a good game but, for me, Eternal Champions kind of does the same thing. It’s just so incredibly "Genesis" somehow.

  20. Dat Bo on April 7, 2021 at 12:00 am

    I swore you could run in street of rage 2 and if not I’m pretty sure you could run as skate in 2,might be mis remembering though,it been 2 years since I’ve last played a street of rage game.Also while I’m not sure about this,I think aleste 1 and 2 came to master system.Solid video overall and was very interested to hear your top 10 other list as the top 25 covered a good amount of genesis game I know,so I was hoping to hear some games I never heard of and that certainly what happened

  21. Peter Skerritt on April 7, 2021 at 12:00 am

    It makes me happy to see PGA Tour Golf III get some love. I think there tends to be a bit more attention paid to PGA Tour Golf II, but the next game offers more stat tracking and more courses. It really felt like the definitive video game golf experience at the time and still holds up VERY well today.

  22. Robert Stevens on April 7, 2021 at 12:01 am

    Future cop on ps one was suppose to be another strike game

  23. American Gunners on April 7, 2021 at 12:02 am

    Yes, my kids know who Mickey Mouse is. They are 5 years old fyi.

  24. Fernando Martinez on April 7, 2021 at 12:04 am

    I didnt shut off the video when you started talking about NHL.
    I just skipped it forward.
    🙂

  25. Jonathan Lopez on April 7, 2021 at 12:05 am

    ABC flash cards

  26. Sloppy Toons on April 7, 2021 at 12:05 am

    Oh man! You talk about racing games on the Genesis and as an F1 fan you don’t mention F1 world championship? It’s a Polygon racing game for the mega drive with no extra chip, and just run smooth and fast as hell. Surely you guys got it in the states. It was licensed too!

  27. Mai Kim Dang on April 7, 2021 at 12:06 am

    I love SoR3 it’s one of my favourite game for the Sega mega drive / Genesis. I think the reason why they added the energy bar for the weapons is because you can do a special move with the weapons by tapping forward forward plus attack button

  28. Mike McFly on April 7, 2021 at 12:07 am

    Great video, Chris! I’m glad you mentioned the popularity of sports games on the Genesis. There was approximately 190 different sports titles(depending on whether you count racing, pool, bowling etc. as a sport)…
    It was fun to “hang out“ with you upstairs and listen to your perspective on the genesis library 🙂

  29. brian north on April 7, 2021 at 12:08 am

    Great surprise video Chris, good to see you doing videos like this again!

  30. Maxwell Scott on April 7, 2021 at 12:13 am

    *looking at my cib starflight and looks up as you say starflight* thank you

  31. DAC Channeling on April 7, 2021 at 12:13 am

    Welcome back Chris

  32. Byron Law on April 7, 2021 at 12:14 am

    Classic sports titles definitely need more love. International Superstar Soccer actually plays better on the Genesis than SNES but rarely gets a mention. It did only come out here in Europe tho.

  33. Cosmic Effect on April 7, 2021 at 12:14 am

    Loved to see you talking about Starflight and PGA Tour Golf, those are spectacular Genesis games. Awesome as always Chris!

  34. Scott Rash on April 7, 2021 at 12:17 am

    NHL 94 is videogame perfection, 2 on 2 games with the 4 way play adapter were epic for trash talking your boys. Don’t let these videogame bullies make you feel bad about liking sports, Chris!!

  35. Michael on April 7, 2021 at 12:17 am

    I rented Desert Strike about 4-5 times for the Genesis growing up. My grandparents would always take me to the video store too late in the evening and all the new and "popular" games were gone, but Desert Strike was always there sitting on the shelf. It was never my favorite but I wasn’t about to turn down renting a game for the weekend. My mom never let me rent games because rented games would give my Genesis a virus. Thinking back, I’m sure this was just her way to get me to stop asking.

  36. Jeffrey on April 7, 2021 at 12:19 am

    It’s kind of surprising that you’ve never played pen and paper rpg before! "American RPG" as a description works super well though

  37. tastyfish1 on April 7, 2021 at 12:19 am

    I would have bundled Quackshot with Castle of Illusion.

  38. Bimmy Lee on April 7, 2021 at 12:19 am

    I love old sports games. You should defiantly talk about sports games if you think they are worth talking about.

  39. R M on April 7, 2021 at 12:20 am

    1:05:43 Goodbye flag man 😄

  40. Steve Brandon on April 7, 2021 at 12:20 am

    Did Madden ’93 also have the on-field mayhem when the ambulance arrives or was that just in ’92? I feel like one of those pre-NFL license Maddens would be a good choice to include should Sega ever make a "Sega Genesis Mini Model 2" since EA is willing to work with Sega on the mini-consoles and also since I don’t think Sega would want to pay for the NFL licensing of later games (although they’d have to modify the EASN logo due to the lawsuit). I also find the early Genesis Madden games to be more aesthetically-pleasing than the later ones; it’s something about the dithering textures on the field especially when it starts snowing.

    I generally feel like sports games in general during the 16-bit era were more accessible to those of us who might not necessarily be superfans of the actual sport and who, instead, were just looking for fast-paced fun arcade experiences. I too would like to see at least NHL ’94 and World Series Baseball on a hypothetical Sega Genesis Mini Model 2 but I suspect the league licenses and especially the Players Association licenses (having to deal with hundreds of individual players, some of whom have sadly died since the games were released) would be prohibitively expensive so they won’t be included even if Sega did make a second one.

  41. SneakyturtleEgg on April 7, 2021 at 12:24 am

    Other games that I had back in the day and would have considered: Pirates Gold!, Atomic Runner, NBA Jam, Eswat, Zombies Ate My Neighbors, Shadowrun, Splatterhouse 2, Rolling Thunder 3, Super Hang-On, Sports Talk Baseball, Bill Walsh College Football ’95, Tecmo Super Bowl, Midnight Resistance, Subterrania, and Ranger X.

  42. CGQ+ on April 7, 2021 at 12:26 am

    Happy Easter, everybody! Hopefully this video marks the comeback of regular uploads on this channel. Things appear to be returning to some semblance of normalcy for me, so a goal of mine is to return to having weekly content on this channel, be it a Flashback episode, a live stream, something different like this episode, etc. I’m also still working on the next "big" episode for the main channel, but it’s taking forever because it was just a big undertaking. Anyway, enjoy!

  43. Gpalmer16 on April 7, 2021 at 12:28 am

    That’s thick.

  44. Yura-Sensei on April 7, 2021 at 12:31 am

    What an awesome idea for a video

  45. Cody Guindon on April 7, 2021 at 12:32 am

    Hey hey I live and teach in China, and all the kids know mickey mouse! In fact I just got back from Disney land. Mickeys still the main guy in the parade though they went most crazy for Elsa. Great video!

  46. Michael Gersper on April 7, 2021 at 12:33 am

    Thanks for the video!

  47. Adam J K on April 7, 2021 at 12:35 am

    Funny part about making rentals harder in the US is that I feel it just turned people off for some to some of the titles they did that with. Look at Comix Zone. I wanted to like that so so so bad, but it just felt not worth the effort

  48. Charlie Friday on April 7, 2021 at 12:36 am

    Mickey Mouse Clubhouse is ubiquitous and the Sesame Street now, really, for many kids!

  49. Samuel Rivera on April 7, 2021 at 12:37 am

    Great video Chris!

  50. Byron Law on April 7, 2021 at 12:38 am

    Really enjoyed this. Starflight really is like being in Star Trek. Buck Rodgers was the first game I re bought when I got back into retro gaming.

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